OLP: Le mensonge est mal, excepté à un ennemi (PLO official: Yes, we’re lying, but it’s just for the money)

imageLe mensonge est mal, excepté pour trois choses: le mensonge d’un homme à son épouse pour la satisfaire; un mensonge à un ennemi, parce que la guerre est dissimulation; ou un mensonge pour règler un différend entre des personnes. Mahomet
Arafat condamnait les bombardements à sa manière, en disant : « Je suis contre le meurtre de civils ». Mais ce n’était pas vrai. Cela se produisait sous la pression, en particulier du président Hosni Moubarak. Moubarak appelait Arafat et lui disait : « Dénonce-le, ou ils te baiseront ». Arafat répondait à Moubarak : « Monsieur le Président, nous avons des martyrs. Les [Israéliens] nous ont détruits. Ils nous ont massacrés. Mais Moubarak lui répondait : « Dénonce-le, ou ils te baiseront ». Ces mensonges n’étaient en rien contraires à la loi islamique. « L’islam autorise le mensonge dans trois cas : Pour réconcilier deux personnes. Si votre femme est laide, vous pouvez lui dire qu’elle est la plus belle femme du monde. Le troisième cas est la politique. Vous avez le droit de mentir en politique. Muhammad Al-Daya (garde du corps d’Arafat, 2014)
La Charte de l’OLP est caduque. Yasser Arafat (au président François Mitterrand, Paris, 2 mai 1989)
Je ne peux pas la modifier de ma propre autorité, car la démocratie est une mécanique complexe. Yasser Arafat (Le Figaro, 29 avril 1989)
L’Organisation rejette tout changement de l’article 19 de notre charte. Abou Lyad (numéro 2 de l’OLP, journal saoudien Okaz, 29 janvier 1989)
Dans sa lettre du 9 septembre au premier ministre Yitzhak Rabin, M. Yasser Arafat a formellement declaré que l’OLP (…) affirme que les articles de la Charte de l’OLP qui denient le droit a l’existence d’Israel sont maintenant inoperants et desormais non valides. Déclaration de Principes Israelo-Palestinienne (20.09.93)
Je mentirais si je vous disais que je vais l’abroger. Personne ne peut le faire. Yasser Arafat (Harvard, octobre 1995)
Aucune autre charte n’a été en effet écrite depuis [1998]… Il y a des publications qui se rapportent à la décision de faire les amendements. Mais il n’y a aucun autre texte – aucun autre paragraphe ou article à la place de ces articles qui devaient être annulés ou amendés. Mais il y a la référence qu’il y a des articles qui devraient être annulés, modifiés ou amendés. Zuhair Sanduka (directeur des Affaires parlementaires internationales de l’OLP, IMRA, 23 janvier 2002)
La libération de la Palestine a pour but de « purifier » le pays de toute présence sioniste. (…) Le partage de la Palestine en 1947 et la création de l’État d’Israël sont des événements nuls et non avenus. (…) La Charte ne peut être amendée que par une majorité des deux tiers de tous les membres du Conseil national de l’Organisation de libération de la Palestine réunis en session extraordinaire convoquée à cet effet. Charte de l’OLP (articles 15, 19 et 33)

Oui, on ment mais c’est juste pour l’argent!

Après les fausses arrestations de terroristes …

L’affrètement du bateau d’armes et de munitions …

Les déclarations négationnistes sur la Shoah …

Les accusations d’injection du SIDA contre Israël …

Les prétendus amendements de la Charte de l’OLP …

Voici, au lendemain de la promesse de versement à l’Autorité palestinienne de quelque 4 milliards de dollars pour la reconstruction de Gaza …

Un énième officiel de l’OLP à reconnaître que non seulement l’OLP ne reconnaît pas Israël …

Mais qu’il n’a pas à le reconnaitre …

Et qu’il ne le fait en fait que pour les subventions internationales!

Dahlan au Hamas: « Ne reconnaissez pas Israël »
Khaled Abu Toameh
The Jerusalem Post
18/03/2009

L’ancien chef des Forces de sécurité préventive du Fatah, Mohammed Dahlan, a exhorté mardi le Hamas à ne pas reconnaître le droit d’exister d’Israël, en faisant remarquer que le Fatah lui-même ne l’avait jamais reconnu.

Il s’agit de la première fois depuis le début du processus de paix, il y a 15 ans, qu’un haut responsable du Fatah affirme ouvertement que sa faction ne reconnait pas Israël. Dahlan a fait cette déclaration lors d’une interview sur la chaîne officielle de l’Autorité palestinienne (AP).

Dahlan, qui s’était très peu exprimé depuis la prise de pouvoir du Hamas dans la bande de Gaza en 2007, a refait surface pendant l’opération « Plomb durci ». Depuis, il a fait plusieurs apparitions publiques, notamment vendredi dernier où il a été vu en train de prier avec le président Mahmoud Abbas. Ce retour pourrait notamment indiquer son désir de jouer un rôle dans l’administration post-Abbas.

Il a par ailleurs été nommé conseiller spécial du président de l’AP, en particulier en vue des pourparlers de réconciliation avec le Hamas au Caire.

Durant l’interview télévisée, il a été demandé à Dahlan si le Fatah demandait au Hamas de reconnaître le droit d’exister d’Israël comme condition à l’établissement d’un gouvernement palestinien d' »union nationale ».

« Ils [le Hamas] ont dit que le Fatah leur avait demandé de reconnaître l’Etat d’Israël et c’est une grande déception. Je répète que nous n’exigeons pas une telle chose. Nous demandons plutôt au Hamas de ne pas se soumettre à cette condition », a-t-il répondu.

Il a également précisé que seule l’OLP (Organisation de libération de la Palestine) avait reconnu le droit d’exister d’Israël au moment de la signature des accords d’Oslo en 1993. En tant que « parti de la résistance », le Fatah n’est pas tenu de s’y conformer, a poursuivi Dahlan.

Le Fatah est la plus grande faction de l’OLP, la deuxième étant le Front populaire de libération de la Palestine.

Voir aussi:

Western funders misled: Fatah still refuses to recognize Israel, PA’s « recognition » only to receive international aid
Itamar Marcus and Barbara Crook
Palestinian Media Watch
March 17, 2009

When Western countries met last month to pledge billions of dollars in funding to the Fatah-led Palestinian Authority, they stressed that Hamas would not receive funding until it recognized Israel. However, a senior Fatah leader, Muhammad Dahlan, admitted yesterday on Palestinian Authority television that Fatah – just like Hamas – still does not recognize Israel.

Furthermore, he said that the Palestinian Authority’s apparent « recognition » is to make the PA « acceptable » to the international community, and therefore allow it to continue to receive international aid:

« I want to say for the thousandth time, in my own name and in the name of all of my fellow members of the Fatah movement: We do not demand that the Hamas movement recognize Israel. On the contrary, we demand of the Hamas movement not to recognize Israel, because the Fatah movement does not recognize Israel even today. »

It is only the Palestinian Authority government, Dahlan insisted, that must « recognize » Israel – not out of conviction or sincerity, but in order to receive the needed help of the international community. This help would not come, says Dahlan, if the PA government did not « recognize » Israel.

The inherent contradiction between the Fatah, headed by « Chairman » Mahmoud Abbas, not recognizing Israel, and the Palestinian Authority, headed by « President » Mahmoud Abbas, « recognizing » Israel, was not challenged by the interviewer.

This is not merely Dahlan’s opinion but apparently official PA ideology. It is nearly identical to the 2006 declaration made by Mahmoud Abbas himself that while PA ministers have to « recognize » Israeli ministers across a negotiating table, for functional purposes, this does not imply political recognition by Fatah of Israel:

« Hamas is not required to recognize Israel… It is not required of Hamas, or of Fatah, or of the Popular Front to recognize Israel. »

The following are the two declarations – yesterday’s by Dahlan and the earlier one by Abbas – that Fatah does not recognize Israel.

Interview with Muhammad Dahlan, PA TV March 16, 2009:

Dahlan: « There are many distortions that the Hamas movement tries to attribute to us [Fatah]. For instance, they always say that the Fatah movement wants Hamas to recognize Israel. This is a gross deception. And I want to say for the thousandth time, in my own name and in the name of all of my fellow members of the Fatah movement: We do not demand that the Hamas movement recognize Israel. On the contrary, we demand of the Hamas movement not to recognize Israel, because the Fatah movement does not recognize
Israel, even today. […] Therefore, no one can compete with us. We of the Fatah do not recognize Israel; we recognized [corrects himself] recognize that which the PLO recognized, but that does not obligate us as a Palestinian resistance faction. »

It is not being demanded of Hamas that it recognize Israel. The government must deal with people’s problems… The entire Palestinian economy is dependent on Israel. The government’s role is to manage the day-to-day life of the Palestinian people. I cannot force my thinking and my position [non-recognition of Israel] on the government, and then [were I to do so] – should the Palestinian people pay the price for this position? No. I maintain the position of the Hamas and of the Fatah not to recognize Israel, but the government is required to offer medical treatment, to make education easier and take care of it. It must carry out reconstruction. Do you imagine that Gaza’s reconstruction is possible under the shadow of this political bickering between us and the international community?

Moderator: Why must the new government recognize the PLO’s commitments?

Dahlan: It’s not the political parties [that must recognize]; it’s required of the government and not of the parties. It’s required of the government but not of Hamas; it’s required of the government but not of the Fatah, so that this government will be able to offer the necessary assistance, to carry out the necessary reconstruction, to offer assistance to the sick, to bring relief to needy families… This can be dealt with [only] by a government that has relations with the international community, one that is acceptable to the international community, in order that we can work together and benefit from the international community. »

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The following interview with Mahmoud Abbas was broadcast on Al-Arabiya [based in Dubai] and Palestinian TV on Oct. 3, 2006:

The host is discussing with Mahmoud Abbas the difference between Hamas and Fatah preventing the establishing of a Palestinian unity government.

Host: « But maybe Hamas is right regarding the fact that it does not want to recognize Israel. »

Abbas [snaps]: « Hamas is not required, Hamas is not required to recognize Israel… It is not required of Hamas, or of Fatah, or of the Popular Front to recognize Israel, all right?

« The PLO, in 1993, recognized Israel. As Israel recognized the PLO. Every person has the right to say ‘I do not recognize,’ okay? It’s your right. It is the right of every organization. But the government which will be formed, and which will function opposite the Israelis on a daily basis… every hour and perhaps every second, there will be contact between Palestinian ministers and Israeli ministers. And I ask – how can this government, or these ministers, not recognize their counterparts, and then solve people’s problems? » [Abbas then gives an example of $500 million in taxes intended for the Palestinians, but put on hold by Israelis. The Palestinian finance minister has to come to an agreement with the Israeli finance minister regarding the transfer of that money.] « So how can he make an agreement with him if he does not recognize him? »

« So I do not demand of Hamas nor any other [organizations] to recognize Israel. But from the government that works with Israelis in day to day life, yes. »

Voir encore:

Arab Opinion
In Interview, Arafat’s Wife Praises Suicide Bombings
Judith Miller
The New York Times

April 15, 2002

WASHINGTON, April 14 — Before Yasir Arafat condemned « terror against civilians » on Saturday, his wife, Suha al-Taweel Arafat, told an Arabic-language magazine that she endorsed suicide attacks as legitimate resistance against Israeli occupation.

In an interview published Friday in Al Majalla, a London-based, Saudi-owned weekly, Mrs. Arafat said that if she had a son, there would be « no greater honor » than to sacrifice him for the Palestinian cause.

« Would you expect me and my children to be less patriotic and more eager to live than my countrymen and their father and leader who is seeking martyrdom? » she was quoted as saying.

Mrs. Arafat has a daughter, not a son, and according to Israeli and Palestinian officials, both she and her daughter have been living in Paris, far from Israel’s counterinsurgency campaign against Palestinians that began two weeks ago.

Henry Siegman, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, who has promoted peace between Israelis and Arabs for almost four decades, said today, « When I hear a woman of Suha Arafat’s intelligence, culture and standing in the Palestinian community condone suicide attacks, I fear that for Israelis and Palestinians the goal is no longer security or the creation of a state, but vengeance. »

Mrs. Arafat’s words, coupled with the carefully balanced condemnation of terrorism that her husband issued in Ramallah, reflect the mixed messages that have been coming out of Arab capitals as governments try to balance the need to react to popular anger against their own diplomatic priorities.

Mrs. Arafat’s comments also reflect the hardening position of Arab leaders on suicide bombing, with prominent religious figures now expressing support for the practice.

Two of Egypt’s most senior government-appointed religious scholars have endorsed suicide attacks.

Sheik Muhammad Sayyed Tantawi, the top scholar of Al Azhar University in Cairo, said on Friday that all Israelis — men, women and children — were « forces of occupation, » according to a translation of the statement by the Middle East Media Research Institute, a translation service in Washington that opposes the militants. Therefore, the sheik said, « martyrdom operations » were the « highest form of jihad operations. »

According to the institute’s translation, the sheik added that suicide attacks were « an Islamic commandment until the people of Palestine regain their land and cause the cruel Israeli aggression to retreat. »

Today he amended those remarks to advise that no Muslim blow himself up « in the midst of children or women, but among aggressors, among soldiers. »

At an inter-faith conference in Alexandria only a few weeks ago he urged tolerance and cooperation among Muslims, Christians and Jews.

The sheik’s comments on suicide attacks were seconded by another of Egypt’s most senior Islamic voices — Dr. Ahmad Al Tayyeb, the newly appointed mufti, Egypt’s highest religious jurist.

Sheik Tayyeb, who once avoided discussing suicide bombings, declared that, « the solution to the Israeli terror » lies in a proliferation of suicide attacks « that strike horror into the hearts of the enemies of Allah. » according to the research institute. « The Islamic countries, peoples and rulers alike, must support these martyrdom attacks. »

Fouad Ajami, the author and professor at Johns Hopkins University’s School of Advanced International Studies, bemoaned the religious establishment’s endorsement of what he called a « culture of terror. »

« A terrible malignancy has been unleashed, » Mr. Ajami wrote last week in a commentary in U.S. News and World Report.

Mr. Siegman, of the Council on Foreign Relations, said, « Left to their own devices these two peoples may not only destroy each other, but do far greater damage to the region and the international community. »

Mr. Siegman, who endorsed a Saudi peace plan as the basis for negotiations, said it was an « illusion » to believe that Egypt or Saudi Arabia could « return their people to sanity. »

Voir enfin:

The Two Faces Of Yasir Arafat Yes, He Condemned Yesterday’s Bombing – But Not In Arabic.

David Bedein

Philly.com
July 31, 1997

In the aftermath of the bombs that blew up in the Mahane Yehuda open-air market yesterday in Jerusalem, the Palestine Broadcasting Corp. (PBC), the official Palestine Authority radio network, reported a « military operation, » even though the bombs had killed 15 and wounded 150 shoppers and shopkeepers – Jews and Arabs, old and young alike – in the one place you are bound to find every kind of person in Jerusalem.

On each newscast that followed the attack, PBC radio repeated the theme: An « operation » had been carried out, not a terror attack.
And Arafat, who had been quoted immediately on the Israeli and foreign newsreels as condemning the attack, would not allow himself to be quoted in Arabic as condemning the « operation. » Meeting the Arab media in Jericho, as he descended from his helicopter, Arafat was tight-lipped, saying nothing to his people that would discourage anything but praise for the attack.

Meanwhile, PBC played victory songs, military marches and joyous music. Later, PBC TV came on the air, televising a play showing Arabs shooting at Israelis. No subliminal message there.

Our agency has monitored Arabic-language PBC radio and television since their genesis at the Oslo peace conference four years ago. The PBC, funded under grants from the U.S. Agency for International Development, has conveyed a consistent message: The war with Israel must proceed, and all means to that end remain justified.

At one point, in September 1995, I was asked to bring PBC videos of Arafat’s televised speeches for a special showing before the U.S. House International Relations Committee. Representatives were surprised to learn that Arafat had yet to make a single statement in Arabic at any time that called for peace with Israel and that clearly condemned terror attacks.

In November, I had the opportunity to have a personal session with Arafat in Bethlehem. He was in a pleasant mood as he spoke of peace between Israelis and Palestinians. He went out of his way during our talk to attack those who would conduct terror activity, calling them enemies of peace.

Yet, one month before the meeting, our Palestinian television crew filmed Arafat at a Bethlehem-area Arab refugee camp, calling for jihad – holy war – and the continuation of the struggle against Israel.

So I asked Arafat when he would repeat to his own people the calls for peace in Arabic that he so eloquently delivers in English. He responded that he « always » speaks of peace in Arabic.

Many Israelis are waiting for such peace proclamations from his lips in Arabic, let alone condemnation of terror bombs in a crowded marketplace. Especially today.

David Bedein is media research analyst and bureau chief of the Israel News Source Agency, Beit Agron International Press Center, Jerusalem.

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‘Arafat was lying when he condemned terror against Israel’Late PA head’s bodyguard says Egypt pressed him to denounce attacks; adds Islamic law permits lying in politicsMarissa Newman Times Of Israel 8 April 2014As Palestinian Authority president, Yasser Arafat’s public condemnations of terror attacks against Israeli civilians were lies born of Egyptian pressure, his ex-bodyguard said.In an interview with BBC Arabic last week, newly translated by media watchdog group MEMRI, Muhammad Al-Daya said that Arafat “would condemn the bombing in his own special way, saying: ‘I am against the killing of civilians.’ But that wasn’t true.”The denouncements were not issued of Arafat’s own volition, Al-Daya explained, but were rather the result of badgering by the then-Egyptian president.“This would happen due to pressure, especially by President Hosni Mubarak,” he said. “Mubarak would call Arafat and say to him: ‘Denounce it, or they will screw you.’ Arafat would say to Mubarak: ‘Mr. President, we have martyrs. The [Israelis] have destroyed us. They have massacred us.’ But Mubarak would say to him: ‘Denounce it, or they will screw you.’”These lies were in no way opposed to Islamic law, Al-Daya continued.“Islam allows you to lie in three cases: In order to reconcile two people,” he said. “If your wife is ugly, you are allowed to tell her she is the most beautiful woman alive. The third case is politics. You are allowed to lie in politics.”Arafat was the chairman of the PLO from 1969-2004, and PA president from 1994 until his death in 2004. While he was in office in the PA, the Second Intifada erupted, sparking a wave of suicide bombings and other attacks throughout Israel, which consistently accused him of sanctioning the attacks.

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  6. jcdurbant dit :

    L’islam autorise de mentir dans trois cas: Afin de concilier deux personnes… (…) Si votre femme est laide, vous êtes autorisé à lui dire qu’elle est la plus belle femme au monde. Le troisième cas est en politique. Vous êtes autorisé à mentir en politique. Abou Ammar (…) Quand il y avait un attentat à Tel-Aviv, par exemple (…) à cause de la pression, en particulier du président Hosni Moubarak. (…) Arafat condamnait l’attentat à sa manière à lui, en disant: « Je suis contre le meurtre de civils ». Mais ce n’était pas vrai.

    Mohammed Al-Daya (ancien garde du corps du chef de l’OLP)

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